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« on: 02 23, 2006, 10:45: AM »

I got a wild (and expensive ) idea.Everyone tells me how my steel slat idea is dangerous,simply by turning around I could easily injure someone.I agree of course but I still like metal.The idea I have is to apply 1/16 scale metal tank treads! they are metal FLEXABLE and would look great I think.
I'm also up for a new job so I can afford it as well as repay some friends who have helped my unique pursuits.
Of course I would still not go out dancing or into large crowds without an escort from my now ....disrupted "Honored Warrior" crew(Hi guys) or wear it sparingly.Now I just so happen to have some Whiting and davis aluminum mesh (a cut up stripped purse) and a butcher's apron of the ultra fine chainmail.I would gladly trade these if someone out there would devise a non-glue way to apply the treads wothout showing any connection methods that is no rivet faces clips or anything that might show how it is attached.Sewing would be OK but the mantle is goatskin over hide leather over denim.
Bear in mind I have to get the treads first so I'm just trying to line up some talent

The spine will still be aluminum or steel,,heh,heh,heh
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« Reply #1 on: 02 27, 2006, 06:52: PM »

Greetings.  Wow! I didn't know they made metal treads for model tanks! Sounds like an awesomely creative idea! May I suggest, if treads will be placed link side down on the armor mantle material, sew them on by hand (whipstitch) using clear fishing line (the way the Whiting and Davis mesh is sewn by the edge links to the purse material). If the links of the treads are like hinges, i.e. a bolt/nail holding two pieces together, you could also try threading thin wire through the hinges and then through very small, pre-punched/pierced holes in the mantle material. To get the spacing for the holes for threading right, you could easily use a pattern tracing wheel, or better yet, stitch pattern wheel for leather. The spurs in the wheel, with a little pressure, will leave indentations in the material so that you may evenly sew straight.  Qapla'!

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« Reply #2 on: 03 20, 2006, 09:39: AM »

g'day't it Jim I'm an artist not a tailor!Yes they do indeed make them in 1/16th scale and 1/35th as well.The tread facings are solid with the guides sticking out about 1/8".I want to figure out a place where I can get slot grommets so essentially I can use a cotter pin through a hole drillled through the track guide.My long waiting Mantle is Goat skin over saddle hide on denim.The tunic is goatskin over denim.
I want to be able to remove the treads so I can clean the garment.Some of those hu'tegh smoothheads get a bit mouthy when they get enough Everclear in em.Gotta wash off the blood and puke.Never from the Marines though we go to sleep after the party survivors crash.
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« Reply #3 on: 03 25, 2006, 06:06: PM »

Interesting... THough I Feel like I might be Coming into the "Middle" of a Discussion... What Exactly are the Tank Treads For? The "Edging"? Regardless I am Always Pro Leather and Metal, my First Armoured Tunic was Made of Both, (Leather and Steel), it was Very Kewl, Very heavy and Not Very Flexible... But Fully SCA Legal! (Ecept for the Sci-Fi aspect of Course)...

Regardless, as I have Suffered More Injuries than I Care to Count, it is No Longer Realistic For me to Wear Heavy, Unflexible Armour but boy Howdy was it Fun when I Did...<Chuckle>...
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« Reply #4 on: 03 26, 2006, 06:15: AM »

I got the impression metal edging was frowned on by some a few years back and needed a more flexable option.These R/C tank treads are just the ticket.
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« Reply #5 on: 03 26, 2006, 09:09: PM »

I got the impression metal edging was frowned on by some a few years back and needed a more flexable option.These R/C tank treads are just the ticket.

Hmmm... I Suppose particularly "Sharpe" Points and Irregular or Jagged Edges would be Bad, but I Have Steel Edging on the Afore Mentioned Tunic, and I have Never Had ANY complaints, Issues or Injuries Associated with its Wear... (And I Wore it For a Good Eleven or So years)... Regardless I would very much like to see a Picture once you Figure out how you will attach the Tank Tred...

Also For Anyone Else who may be Trying to Figure out an Alternative to metal Edging on their Leather Tunic, I would Suggest Simply making the Edging out of Leather also, and Just Painting it the proper or Desired Color...
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« Reply #6 on: 04 05, 2006, 10:04: PM »

My own uniform is trimmed with aluminium - as has already been said, it is armour after all.  Our dk'tahgs, mekleths and batleths are made of ally as well, all designed to look sharp although they are actually not.
I actually did get attacked once at a charity event by a drunk who bumped into me and tore his shirt and tried to hit me.  He soon backed off when I pulled out my d'ktahg and he realised therre were also two other very tall Klingons behind him, also carying weapons.
I've had quite a few adventures in that uniform, including tellingf a policeman to donate or die.
The worst one though was the groupie who followed me around all day, trying to stare down my cleavage. Embarrassed

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« Reply #7 on: 08 29, 2009, 01:58: AM »

    Most of the fan run conventions I've been to have rules against metal protrusion in costumes and particularly metal weapons.   They don't want the liability of fans injuring each other.  Conventions have security for their own reasons (ie, to keep people out who don't pay), but in having on site security tends to present the implication that they are there to provide a safe convention experience... And while that is true too...   It does tend to make conventions legally responsible for everyone's safety.

    I don't know the laws in the United Kingdom, but in America pulling a Daqtagh on someone is usually considered "brandishing a weapon", even if the blade is not sharpened.   That is a crime and can land you in jail.  Some conventions in America only allow metal weapons in your room or in the dealer's area and require security escort between the two...   Those that allow weapons in public areas typically insist that the weapon is "peacebonded" into it's sheath, so it may not be drawn when worn in public areas. 
 
    Conventions are crowded places and regardless of whether alcohol is involved or not, people can and do bump into each other, and they are not expecting to be cut or have their clothing destroyed for accidentally bumping into someone.

    Seriously, I would only recommend actual metal weapons and armour if you are only going to have it on display or only wearing it on stage,
on a closed set or other controlled traffic area.  For most of us that is rare enough not to warrant the effort of making a second costume that includes metal in addition to one that you can actually safely wear to a convention without being ordered by the con security to remove it, leave it in your hotel room or be escorded off the premises.   You are at a con to have fun and that's a quick way to ruin it. 

    If you have metal protrusions or weapons that you intend to bring, carefully research the event or attraction you are going to, to be sure your uniform complies with thier policies and you wont be forced to remove it or be forced to leave.
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« Reply #8 on: 08 29, 2009, 08:59: PM »

Klythe, you are quite right about brandishing weapons... I did tell the policeman to donate or die but in a way that was in keeping with the event and also non threatening.

However, I dont care what the law says.. if someone, especially a big drunk man,  attacks me, then I'll defend myself in any way I can, including with a toy d'ktahg if necessary.
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