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« on: 10 03, 2012, 10:28: PM »

I just started reteaching myself tlhIngan Hol after a couple years of letting my books and Cd's collect dust. I got to thinking yesterday and I thought it would be interesting to find out. Has anyone ever dreamt entirely in tlhIngan Hol?
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« Reply #1 on: 11 15, 2012, 05:00: PM »

I personally have not, but this indeed a interesting question for those who consider themselves masters..
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« Reply #2 on: 11 18, 2012, 03:38: AM »

I have never been a student of ta Hol*, but have picked up a bit here and there simply from continued exposure. While I do not remember ever having dreamt in anything but klingonaase (seriously, from what I know of it), I have had dreams in which I have struggled to understand the thlIngan Hol being spoken and only recognized a few words here and there. I have also had dreams wherein I’ve fought to generate a few simple phrases from what little I can dig out of my brain, just trying to make myself understood. Frustrating.

I have experienced this with Earthbound languages, too. Also frustrating. I expect that in my case, it is more of a general communications barrier issue than a Klingon- or thlIngan Hol-related issue.

I too look forward to responses from those who have conquered the language.

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« Reply #3 on: 11 18, 2012, 01:49: PM »

When I was living in the U.S., people would often ask me what language I did my thinking in: English or Swedish.
It was always very difficult for me to answer that question, and I usually answered something like "Both ... or neither."

Unconscious thought appears to be more or less language-less. Some words may be thrown around, but they don't all have to be from the same language, or follow any particular syntax, and they're mixed with images, feelings and the like; it's almost like a multimedial pidgin. A concept for which there is no word in English and requires a long explanation can be imagined as easily and as something covered by a one-syllable word.

Likewise, when I ask myself what language I dream is, I find that most of the time language doesn't factor into it. People may speak, but I understand them without relying on words, and when I wake up, I find that I can quote them in both English and Swedish, and neither retelling of events is more truthful than the other.

So, while I've had dreams the plots of which involved people speaking Klingon, I doubt my mind actually went to the trouble of formulating Klingon sentences. I just knew they were speaking Klingon, and I knew what they were saying, and that was all that was needed.
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