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« on: 05 18, 2011, 02:57: AM »

I am in the process of creating a Android app that will give a saying of kahless each day.
I know there may not be enough for this so I may need to modify the idea a bit.

What I was hoping for was some help collecting the sayings.
Thanks in advance.

I can start with a few.

1. "Only a fool stands before the wind."
2. "bat'leth sword of honor"
3. "Destroying an Empire to win a war is no victory. And ending a battle to save an Empire is no defeat."
4. "A leader is judged not by the length of his reign but by the decisions he makes."
5. "There is no victory without combat."
6. "Great men do not seek power, they have power thrust upon them."
7. "A terrible secret cannot be kept."
8. "The battle is never over as long as one of the enemy yet lives."
9. "Glory comes from unexpected sources."
10. "Opportunity is the partner of every warrior, if only he is wise enough to meet it."
11. "The patient warrior is rewarded."
12. "Even the most prepared and cunning warrior may die."
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« Reply #1 on: 05 21, 2011, 01:29: AM »


     This is an excellent idea...  Perhaps extending it to include the wisdom from all Klingons.  Kahless was a great warrior, perhaps the best that ever lived, but there are many others who have shared wisdom that would benefit Klingons.
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« Reply #2 on: 05 21, 2011, 02:53: AM »

I agree, Iwould like to get as many says as I can..

Please be sure to credit the klingon who says the quote.

Thanks
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« Reply #3 on: 05 29, 2011, 03:38: PM »

A fine idea. ""Kahless left us, all of us, a powerful legacy. A way of thinking and acting that makes us Klingon. If his words hold wisdom and his philosophy is honorable, what does it matter if he returns? What is important is that we follow his teachings. Perhaps the words are more important than the man." (TNG: "Rightful Heir"; spoken by the clone of Kahless")

More Klingon quotes and proverbs can be found here (get the book or the audio tape for explanations of each phrase).


1. "Only a fool stands before the wind."
I believe this should be "The wind does not respect a fool" (qoH vuvbe' SuS. in modern-day Klingon).
3. "Destroying an Empire to win a war is no victory. And ending a battle to save an Empire is no defeat."
noH QapmeH wo' Qaw'lu'chugh yay chavbe'lu' 'ej wo' choqmeH may' DoHlu'chugh lujbe'lu'. in modern-day Klingon.
6. "Great men do not seek power, they have power thrust upon them."
The exact quote from "Tacking into the wind" is "Great men do not seek power; it is thrust upon them." (although it was scripted as you write it)
7. "A terrible secret cannot be kept."
[...]
9. "Glory comes from unexpected sources."
[...]
11. "The patient warrior is rewarded."
Does anybody know the source for these quotes? I've seen the quotes elsewhere, but never their sources.

Those that I can identify are:

1. TNG: "Rightful Heir" (spoken by the clone of Kahless)
2. TNG: "Rightful Heir" establishes that Kahless created the first sword of this kind, and that he gave the sword its name after he used it to slay Molor. "Klingon for the Galactic Traveler" explains that the sword is called by its archaic name betleH in modern-day Klingon, even though batlh 'etlh is the way you say "sword of honor" in modern-day Klingon.
3. DS9: "The War of the Warrior" (quoted by Worf) "The Klingon Way" by Marc Okrand states explicitly that the words were first stated by Kahless, and gives a modern-day Klingon translation.
4. DS9: "Tacking Into the Wind" (quoted by Ezri Dax)
5. ENT: "Divergence"
6. DS9: "Tacking Into the Wind" (quoted by Worf)
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8. Quoted by B'Edra in "Star Trek: IKS Gorkon, Book 1: A Good Day to Die" by Keith R.A. DeCandido
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10. "Klingons: Blood Will Tell" by Scott Tipton and David Tipton
11. "Greater Than the Sum", TNG novel by Christopher L. Bennett
12. "Greater Than the Sum", TNG novel by Christopher L. Bennett

Some more quotes:

Kahless: "Today was a good day to die."
Lukara: "The day is not yet over, Lukara."
Kahless: "Would you kill me to?"
Lukara: "No, but I would gladly die by your hand if you will not mate with me this day."
Acted out on the holodeck by Worf, Quark and Jadzia Dax in DS9: "Looking for Par'Mach in All the Wrong Places"

Even the best blade will rust and grow dull unless it is cared for.
'etlh QorghHa'lu'chugh ragh 'etlh nIvqu' 'ej jejHa'choH.
Spoken by the clone of Kahless in TNG: "Rightful Heir" (in English). In "The Klingon Way", Marc Okrand gives a Klingon version and says that this is a Klingon proverb. He says that since the clone of Kahless knew of this proverb, it's likely that the original Kahless knew it, as well. That doesn't necessarily mean he was the first to speak it, though.
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« Reply #4 on: 07 03, 2011, 08:32: AM »

vamPyr:

I would suggest you grab a copy of the Klingon Way... It is chockfull of proverbs and sayings.
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« Reply #5 on: 07 03, 2011, 01:53: PM »

tesseraktik 
thank you for the great references..
I will indeed use them.

SoplaHtaHwI'
I have this reading material.
I am planning on using it as well..

Thank you both..

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« Reply #6 on: 04 15, 2013, 11:16: PM »

good idea. you have "death is a gift best shared" right?
btw im not quite sure on that last quote. its something like that
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