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« on: 02 03, 2008, 01:17: PM »

Hi, I am new here but I think you people can help me…

I am starting a TOS live action role playing scenario which will include Klingons. I need 4 disruptors of the original series design for my Klingons, and 2 Eminiar VII disruptors (which look similar, I can supply images if necessary) which I plan to use for Orion disruptors in the game.

The weapons need to be tough enough to drop (not every player is as careful as I am with my stuff) and wood seems like a good medium for what I need.

They do not need to be perfect or painted I can handle the painting, I just need a tough disruptor at a good price, the stuff I am seeing online is way too expensive to buy several disruptors at their rates.

I hope someone here can help me out…

Thanks in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: 02 04, 2008, 07:31: PM »



    Really these forums are more geared to provide information for people who want to build their own props.   


    Due to the many odd shapes on a disruptor, it would take a lot of time to hard carve each peice to make sure it is the right shape.  If you are looking at multiple disruptors, you really should consider resin prop kits.  They are every bit as light and more durable than wooden ones, and are easier to produce in multiples.   If you are only making a single disruptor wood might be a btter choice, but 4 wooden disruptors take 4 times as long to hand carve as one wooden disruptor.  Where as with resin, once the casts are made for the first disruptor, additional units can be molded more quickly.   Mass producing wooden disruptors is possible, but the machinery required costs thousands of dollars.

     Not that I make disruptors or anythong like that, yet.  I only know because my stwp-father is a machinist who is working on making violins, another object with lots of specially curved surfaces that has to be just right. 

    In particular I know that custom designs from images can also be very expensive.   If the $50 each (or so) for the resin kits are too expensive, I would recommend using toys.  I'm not sure if anyone is still making toy disruptors, but you could try to find old toys in thrift shops and such to use as your weapons.
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« Reply #2 on: 02 05, 2008, 12:50: PM »

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If the $50 each (or so) for the resin kits are too expensive, I would recommend using toys.  I'm not sure if anyone is still making toy disruptors, but you could try to find old toys in thrift shops and such to use as your weapons.



Have you seen the original series disruptor kits for $50? If so, please direct me to them!!!!

I have not been able to find kits at all; and I haven't been able to find the completed props for less than $150 with some being much more expensive.

I would construct my own weapons but I do not have the equipment or the space to set it up if I did have it. So I am forced to seek someone who can make them for me.

If I can’t get the disruptors from somewhere I will (unfortunately) have to buy some cheesy looking ray guns from some local store. I do want my klingons to look good though so I am trying to get them accurate props.

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« Reply #3 on: 02 06, 2008, 07:12: PM »


   Well, I know New Moon props sells unfinished resin disruptor kits for $45 each, but they lack the metal rod parts, though you should be able to find something usable at a hardware store.   I've heard some good things and if I remember the bad things are mostly that they sometimes can take a while to deliver.  If you have a deadline, I would recommend communicating that up front.

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« Reply #4 on: 02 06, 2008, 07:33: PM »

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Well, I know New Moon props sells unfinished resin disruptor kits for $45 each, but they lack the metal rod parts, though you should be able to find something usable at a hardware store.   I've heard some good things and if I remember the bad things are mostly that they sometimes can take a while to deliver.  If you have a deadline, I would recommend communicating that up front.



That is an excellent site, thanks for the suggestion; I will probably pick up their Klingon communicators.

However their disruptor kit is not the model I am looking for. I am looking for the one from the old 60s TV show. It resembles an old flintlock colored in grey and silver with a metal emitter assembly on the front. It is not nearly as complex as the movie and Next Gen models.

Oh, thanks for the “quotes” heads up as well.

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« Reply #5 on: 02 06, 2008, 08:29: PM »

Klythe,

How do you place an image in the post? I could show you the weapon if I could do that.

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« Reply #6 on: 02 10, 2008, 10:10: AM »

canis,

My apologies for the belated reply. The short answer is: you can’t. The slightly longer answer is: I am working on it. In the meantime, if you will email the image to me at  kesvirit at klingon dot org , I will add it to your post if I can and post it separately if I can not.  Images need to be no larger than 50k and in .gif, .jpg, or .jpeg format.

I for one am curious to see what you are up to.  }}`: )

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« Reply #7 on: 02 10, 2008, 11:21: AM »

I have sent you the images; both are well within the size requirements.

If you have any leads on these items (for a reasonable price) please let me know.

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« Reply #8 on: 02 10, 2008, 11:42: AM »

Unfortunately only one image will stick to a given post. It's times like this I want to take a hammer to the Forum software.

Click on images to enlarge them.


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« Reply #9 on: 02 10, 2008, 12:00: PM »

Kesvirit,

Thanks for the assistance, but I do not see any pictures.
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« Reply #10 on: 02 12, 2008, 07:39: AM »

::growls. sends Fluffy after hammer::

I will see to the problem immediately. It may be a few days before you see results. PM me as soon as you see disruptors. Approach slowly to confirm that they are not aimed at you before proceeding. Words to live by... or die by. Your choice. }}: P

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« Reply #11 on: 02 12, 2008, 12:23: PM »

I will let you know when they show up... and I will watch my step; using cover where available.   Thumbs up!

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« Reply #12 on: 02 12, 2008, 08:30: PM »

The disruptor images are up, thankfully they were not pointed at me!

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« Reply #13 on: 02 14, 2008, 08:05: PM »

Klythe

I have to thank you again for the New Moon Props suggestion. I have contacted them and they may soon add the TOS disruptor to their inventory.

Hopefully it will not be too late for my LARP, at any rate if New Moon stays true to their pricing their disruptors will be far more affordable than any of the TOS disruptors currently available. 

Thanks again

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« Reply #14 on: 02 15, 2008, 12:43: PM »

Last summer a group called “Profiles in History” held an auction of (primarily) science fiction TV and film props. Among the highlights: “Original Klingon Disruptor from the original Star Trek TV series that was previously on loan to the Smithsonian by Art Director Matt Jefferies. Est. $15,000 - $20,000”.

But getting back to reality -- if New Moon can’t get your arms shipment  to you in time, King of Swords sells resin disruptor kits for USD 67.50.

Wishing you good aim,
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« Reply #15 on: 02 15, 2008, 05:03: PM »

Yea, I have considered that disruptor, I was hoping to stay in period, but if I can't get accurate weapons I see little choice but to get the movie/NG model; either that or go with a cheep cheesy generic ray gun.

I am holding out hope for the proper weapon!

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The prices of the TOS disruptor are all outrageous but I might pick up a couple anyway

starfortressproductions.com has the klingon TOS disruptor for a mere $200 and the second (Eminiar VII) disruptor for $220

Roddenberry.com has the TOS disruptor kit (not built) for $279.95

So far those are the only sources that I have been able to find. But I look regularly.

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« Reply #16 on: 02 18, 2008, 01:25: AM »

I just got my first disruptor! It is a resin kit and it only cost me $53.00 on e-bay; which is a steal for that item. Now I just need 3 more and I am in business.

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« Reply #17 on: 02 19, 2008, 12:32: AM »

I am checking with newmoonprops.com to see if they would duplicate my disruptor for me using the one I got on e-bay as a master.

I thought it might be worth while to see if any of you would be interested in getting one once they are available.

Any takers?

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« Reply #18 on: 03 06, 2008, 01:48: AM »

I received the TOS klingon disruptor I ordered from e-bay today and will be forwarding it to newmoonprops.com later this week. Once they duplicate the prop you may be able to find them on their site.

I will continue the updates as more information becomes available.

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« Reply #19 on: 09 23, 2008, 11:11: AM »

Hi Canis,

Your  a star to go to all this trouble, hope you get somewhere with them, they will get atleast two orders for them from me and I live in the UK.

I was contemplating trying to build my own and wanted to share how so I'll add it here, in case anyone knows a better way or just has some ideas.

For my project, I did work out a quick and relatively easy method for making the stock and body of the Disruptor in wood  and one that would only require the most basic of tools.

I first photocopied a picture of a Disruptor up to what I judged was roughly the right size and scale.

Next I took a long hard look at it then broke it down into shapes and layers.

The first layer would be as thick as the handle grip and would be cut out to the shape of the grip and carry on to encompass the basic shape of the Disruptor’s body up to where the barrel is fitted to it.

The second layer would be two slightly thinner pieces to fit on each side to bulk out the body .

Two smaller pieces forming layer three can be seen fitted to the body near the front.

All these can easily be cut and glued together.  (I’ll try to include some pictures as soon as I work out how, i'm not the most techinological of people.)

The only draw back to the plan is where to get the metal pieces for the barrel and top of the Disruptor.

One quick dodge I was planning on was to use some large dowel for the Metal Bars at the base of the Disruptor’s body, which could easily be sprayed silver.

For a more realistic weight I guess layer one could be cut from Aluminium or a light alloy scrap.

As I have said the only problem is where to get the other fittings whether in plastic or metal but if Newmoon are going to bring out a Disruptor then this isn’t as important as before.  I just hope all you guys in the US leave at least one for e in the UK?

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« Reply #20 on: 09 26, 2008, 01:46: PM »

Hi Canis,

I took the liberty of approaching Newmoon to see where they were and I thought extra interest could only help the cause.

I got this reply back which isn't the best but not totally bad.

While there have been a couple of inquiries, we have no set plans to make
this kit.  We have one builder who is playing with some ideas in his spare
time, but that is it.

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Not looking to good  so perhap if everyone who wants one or more should email them letting them know how much onterest there is out there?

Just an idea.

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« Reply #21 on: 10 02, 2008, 03:48: AM »


Hi Kerris ,

    I'm afraid how much I'll spend at Newmoon props once I decide to order something.  They have so much good stuff, such a nice problem to have  Cheesy

    At least they have the have the prop and are working on it from time to time, so it's only a matter of time before they release their TOS disruptor...
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