Klingonese Bloodwine

[USS-Dragon]

Bloodwine is a favored drink to the Klingon. It is a worriors drink in their culture. I wish I could get my hands on some of that stuff!   

[Qunchuy]

Look up sangria.

[Abbot Nej vIt]

Bloodwine is a favored drink to the Klingon. It is a worriors drink in their culture. I wish I could get my hands on some of that stuff!   

Dragon,

There are several recipes out there for both Alcoholic and NA versions*, (if you are not over 21 or of legal age to drink where ever you are), you can easily find them by doing a web-search on Klingon Bloodwine... Also Klingon Blood Wine, as Three words...

*There is an article right here at KIDC about NA versions...GO HERE

So you see, there is no need to pine for the stuff... It is in fact within your reach...


maj! {Good}...

[Kehlan]

Hello Dragon, pleased to "meet" you

I know there are plenty of recipes out there, some aloholic and some not.  Wouldn't it be interesting though if it were possible to have the real thing...

I wonder what it would taste like?  Blood I suppose...

Have we ever been given any definite information about it?

Kehlan

[SoplaHtaHwI']

Hello Dragon, pleased to "meet" you

I know there are plenty of recipes out there, some aloholic and some not.  Wouldn't it be interesting though if it were possible to have the real thing...

I wonder what it would taste like?  Blood I suppose...

Have we ever been given any definite information about it?

Kehlan

AFAIK no canon mention of what exactly it is has been given. I think I've read somewhere it either is or contains the product of some Ha'DIbaH after consuming blood, rather than actual blood.

Ha'DIbaH => Animal (not "meat", which it also may mean)

[QorvaS]

Greetings.

Though I know that Worf, son of Mogh is probably the last guy one should use as template for a REAL Klingon, I do agree with his opinion on the 'worthiness' of prune juice. In fact, a friend of mine has successfully combined cranbrerry juice, prune juice and Captain Morgan's spiced rum to make a MOST interesting (perhaps regional variation) of Klingon Blood Wine.

May enemy blood stain your beard


QorvaS

[KAllen]

Look up IKV Melota, my friend Salek brews the most awesome blood wine.  It is drunk at all events that the Melota attends (including my ships "Venom War"). 

It is GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD...and pretty stout as well!!!

[tesseraktik]

I think I've read somewhere it either is or contains the product of some Ha'DIbaH after consuming blood, rather than actual blood.

Sounds about right.  After all, Worf likes his Bloodwine "very young and very sweet."

[qoSagh]

Interesting that Worf likes young Bloodwine. Before ever seeing that quote, in our previous topic about bloodwine, I theorized that the non alcoholic versions were the young versions and the alcoholic ones the aged & fermented versions. So basically Worf has once again proves himself to be unable to handle something Klingon. Go Figure.

[Kehlan]

...the non alcoholic versions were the young versions and the alcoholic ones the aged & fermented versions. So basically Worf has once again proves himself to be unable to handle something Klingon. Go Figure.

Not true I'm afraid. wine is something I do know about...  Even with Terran wines, the age and sweetness of the wine, and it has little or nothing to do with its alcohol content (nearly always between 11 and 13 % alcohol) and more to do with the variety of grape used.  Cabernet Sauvignon for example, while having a great flavour, takes a very long time to mature into something drinkable whereas with a merlot the tannins fade quicker and it is therefore ready to drink at an earlier stage - it doesnt have the staying power of Cab Sauv though, which is why they are often mixed together... 

An example of strong sweet wine is the Hungarian Tokai Aszu which is actually made from grapes that have shrivelled up with botrytis (mould) - it takes out most of the water and leaves amost pure sugar to ferment).  slightly less alcoholic is the German Eiswine, made from grapes that are harvested so late they are actually frozen on the vine.

another good example is port, which of course has a different manufacturing process to normal wine... extra sweet and extra strong (can't stand the stuff myself personally)

anyway, getting back on track, I don't claim to be an expert on Klingon drinks but chemistry is chemistry - and sweetness and alcohol content will not change if a wine is stored.  I cannot imagine that bloodwine would be much different.

Kehlan

[tesseraktik]

anyway, getting back on track, I don't claim to be an expert on Klingon drinks but chemistry is chemistry - and sweetness and alcohol content will not change if a wine is stored.  I cannot imagine that bloodwine would be much different.

Well, that argment would stand or fall with whether or not bloodwine is based on the juice of fruits or that of animals, would it not?
Anyhow, I'm impressed by your knowledge of wine!  I hope that I will some day be acquire comparable knowledge in this field!

[qoSagh]

What I meant by young and old, was actually more pre & post fermentation. Not that Prefermented wine (of the grape variety) would be all that tasty. This distinction was made years ago when making various concoctions for convention use. It seemed better to refer to the various red mixtures as young and old Bloodwine, so that the younger fans didn't feel left out of the role play. I suppose that this bit of food role play has carried on with me for years and I now just think in these terms when discussing Bloodwine.

[Kehlan]

[Well, that argment would stand or fall with whether or not bloodwine is based on the juice of fruits or that of animals, would it not?

It would depend more on whether the word alcohol means the same thing to Klingons as it does to humans - to us it is actually a chemical named Ethanol, which would react in the same way whether its used to ferment blood or grapes.  when a wine or other alcoholic drink ages after fermentation what is happening is that the tannins and other chemicals are balancing out and yes you are right, a blood based drink would age differently to a grape based one.

Just a whimsical thought though - do Klingons get drunk on ethanol or something else?  I once read a piece of fan fiction that had Vulcans getting drunk on cinnamon - now there's no way thats canon, but its an interesting concept all the same. We know that much of Klingon biology is different to ours, so would this aspect be the same or different?

What I meant by young and old, was actually more pre & post fermentation. Not that Prefermented wine (of the grape variety) would be all that tasty.

I figured that and in fan circles its a good way of distinuishing the between alcohol and non alchohol.  By the way, in some places you can buy the grape must - its popular in Spain for example.  Personally I don't like it, its very sweet and tastes strongly of raisins rather than grapes.  If you like raisins you will probably like it.


Kehlan

[qoSagh]

I remember an older fan once telling me that Klingon got drunk off of citrus fruit. He sited FASA, but I myself do not know the exact reference. As for Vulcans and Cinnamon, it is sort of canon. I have been given to understand that in ST4, when Kirk and Spock needed exact change, they bought a pack of gum, which was Cinnamon gum. Spock tried some, and that is why swimming with the whales seemed like a good idea. I have heard that the concept made it as far as the cutting room floor, but did get into the novelization.

[melmaqngan]

While all these recipes are interesting, I'm wondering if it is even possible to extract/distill alcohol from actual blood. Any suggestions from our chemistry/biology fans?

[Kehlan]

Just about any liquid can be made to ferment if it has sugars in it.  No reason why a blood based drink should be an exception.  Again, the question is whether bloodwine is fermented blood or an alcoholic drink of some sort that has blood added after fermentation.

[melmaqngan]

Again, the question is whether bloodwine is fermented blood or an alcoholic drink of some sort that has blood added after fermentation.

An interesting point. This opens up all possibilities: Adding blood to any booze. Any takers?

(Would it clot or mix?)

Incidentally, our pre-colonial Philippine history has something similar called the Blood Compact. The tribal chief would meet the visitor, whereupon both would make an incision just below their wrists. Both cuts would then be pressed together, the exchange of their blood signifying peaceful coexixtence. The bloiod would then drip into a bowl of wine, which both would drink to each other's health. 

[Kehlan]

Many wines used to have blood added, although its been illegal for a while.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/377938.stm

Bull's blood was widely used to clarify wine before bottling until the ban was imposed by the European Union in 1997 as part of measures to fight BSE, or mad cow disease.

Two blood related wine that come to mind are the spanish Sangre de Toro and the Hungarian Egri Bikaver - (Bulls Blood) and actually neither of them have bull's blood in them.  the spanish one was so named purely because the vintner was looking to expand into the international market and thought the name had a really typical spanish sound to it.  the history of the hungarian one is a bit more interesting however and is worth a read....  http://www.bullsblood.com/

Would it clot or mix?  Well, its not a food example but I work in a microbiology lab and one of the things we test for is campylobacter.  The media we use is made up on site and autoclaved after which a vial of sheep's blood is aded before use.  It mixes quite happily and stays liquid.  wouldnt want to drink it of course but the principle is the same.