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El Payaso Malo
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jaS jIvang-ghopwIj luQIHlu'chugh qIvonlIj vIpuplaH


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« Reply #25 on: 09 26, 2010, 06:02: PM »

They all have English translations though:

Suv   (verb)   fight
Qoj   (verb)   make war
ghob   (verb)   fight, battle, do battle, wage war
HIgh   (verb)   fight dirty
Qor   (verb)   fight, battle(very minor fight)
tlhaS   (verb)   fight, battle (relatively minor fight)
vay   (verb)   fight, battle (midlevel ferocity)
lul   (verb)   fight, battle (relatively major fight)
Hargh   (verb)   fight, battle (major confrontation)

vIq   (noun)   battle, combat (abstract)
may'   (noun)   battle
veS   (noun)   war, warfare

I don't see poH as being a noun for war in my dictionary, it's only listed as time. Do you have a source for the war definition so I can add it?


It was a typographical error. I meant noH. Yes, they all have English translations, but not English equivalents. What are one word English equivalents to vay and Hargh that not only shares their respective meanings, but also their meanings relative to each other? If anyone can provide that, then I do not know English and Okrand didn't succeed with these bits of vocabulary in showing that Klingons not only have lots of words for conflict, but that each is actually specific to varying degrees in ways that English and other languages aren't, such as whether or not the word was abstract or specific, to what intensity is intended.
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-'IwwIjDaq 'oH veS.
-ngoQ ghajnISbe' vIq. vIq ngoQ 'oH vIq. qatlh ngej rop'a' bIghelbe' 'ej qatlh meQ yotlh bIghelbe'. jISuvDI' meqwIj vIQIj 'e' DaghelQo'.
-qul ngaDHa' 'oH QeHwIj 'ej vaHbo' pubbogh 'Iw 'oH QeHwIj. choHIvmo' qaSuvbe'. bIyIntaHmo' qaSuv.
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« Reply #26 on: 10 11, 2010, 03:26: AM »

I just discovered another one: Sol ("quarrel"). These words are perhaps one of my favorite parts of the lexicon, as it has many layers. If anyone discovers anymore, let me know.
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-'IwwIjDaq 'oH veS.
-ngoQ ghajnISbe' vIq. vIq ngoQ 'oH vIq. qatlh ngej rop'a' bIghelbe' 'ej qatlh meQ yotlh bIghelbe'. jISuvDI' meqwIj vIQIj 'e' DaghelQo'.
-qul ngaDHa' 'oH QeHwIj 'ej vaHbo' pubbogh 'Iw 'oH QeHwIj. choHIvmo' qaSuvbe'. bIyIntaHmo' qaSuv.
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« Reply #27 on: 10 11, 2010, 12:15: PM »

Just to go back to the orginal topic, and I noticed no one had mentioned this:

Orginal, I believe, Okrand only had HISlaH (yes, the answer to a yes/no question only) and luq (ok, I'll do it, the answer to an order). The other two words came from mispronunciations by actors. luq easily becomes lu' when an actor forgets the q. HISlaH can become HIja' if it's slured: hi-slah => slah sounds a bit like ja (note: HISlaH should be pronounced as two syllables HIS-laH, not the slured *HI-SlaH).

The "Report!" meaning of HIja' is because HI- means "You do it to me!" and ja' means "to report". It's not a set phrase that was around before HIja' became "yes". It also sounds different from HIja'. HIja' is pronounced as one syllable, HI-ja' is prounced as two syllables with stress occurring on the ja' (second syllable).
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