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« on: 04 20, 2009, 01:24: AM »

1. What is the purpose of the Day of Honor?
2. How does one celebrate/what does one do on the Day of Honor?
3. When is the Day of Honor?
4. How do you say "Day of Honor" in tlhIngan Hol?

Please share past stories about what you've done on the Day of Honor?
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« Reply #1 on: 04 20, 2009, 06:44: PM »

All worthy questions. Various aspects of the Day of Honor have been addressed in threads scattered throughout the boards. I can tell you that it falls on March 23, that many more speak of it than actually observe it, and that I too am curious as to how those who do observe it do so.

There are two threads titled “Day of Honor,”  one here  and  one here. There is also Plans for upcoming Day of Honor?  All KIF Klassics.
 
I hope that these will answer some of your questions and bring in the experiences of others.

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« Reply #2 on: 04 23, 2009, 08:43: AM »

I may be the only Klingon that does not recognize March 23 as the sole day of honor. I have written why in the other threads. Suffice to say that questions 1,2 & 3 all depend on how you define day of honor. Question 4 is one for the linguists among us.
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« Reply #3 on: 04 23, 2009, 10:50: AM »

Did Gene Roddenberry create day of honor or was it someone who worked on DS9, TNG or some other seriese? The reason I ask is because if the person who created it is still alive, they would know...
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« Reply #4 on: 04 23, 2009, 03:39: PM »

"Day of Honor"

Both quv and batlh mean "honor"; I think we established somewhere on this forum that quv probably means "personal honor".  Which type of honor is referred to in Day of Honor?

You could translate using either word as batlh jaj or quv jaj, but for some reason, both of those sound sort of stupid to me.  I'd be tempted more by jaj quv, which is literally "honored day", using quv in its other meaning as an adjective. On the other hand, Military Day is translated as QI'lop (QI' military + lop celebration), and "birthday" is qoS, neither of which use the word "day" in the Klingon at all.

There may be an accepted translation of this, if so, it over-rides whatever I speculate.
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« Reply #5 on: 04 23, 2009, 09:25: PM »

According to the KLI's Extended Corpus Project:
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Batlh jaj
(phrase) Klingon term meaning "Day of Honor"; a ritualistic reaffirmation of one's own honor and the honor of their enemies held in high esteem. The Batlh jaj is held on the 4th day of the 9th month. One of the traditions of the Batlh jaj is called the "Suv'batlh" where 2 opponents fight to the death when one's honor has been challenged. Calling for a Suv'batlh on the Batlh jaj cannot be refused.
This comes from the 1997 book Day Of Honor #2: Armageddon Sky (ISBN 0-671-00675-4).
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« Reply #6 on: 04 24, 2009, 02:07: PM »

Then I guess batlh jaj it is.  On the other hand, Suv'batlh is totally ungrammatical, down to the superfluous ' . Is any of this Okrandian canon?
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« Reply #7 on: 04 24, 2009, 07:25: PM »

Okay I took a look at the other threads. Seems like it's a day to reflect on honor and party trekkie style. Though I believe it would be more proper to make the Day of Honor on the date the first Day of Honor episode came out, it seems that most trekkers across the galaxy recognize March 23rd as the Day of Honor, so I shall, too. Thanks for everyones help, and if you have any more information, I'd love if you'd post it.

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« Reply #8 on: 04 26, 2009, 12:29: AM »

Though I believe it would be more proper to make the Day of Honor on the date the first Day of Honor episode came out, it seems that most trekkers across the galaxy recognize March 23rd as the Day of Honor, so I shall, too.

March 23, 1967 was the air date of the Star Trek episode "Errand of Mercy", the first to portray Klingons.
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