Can someone help me?

[Warrior_of_Kahless]

Well, I know this is a little cheezy but can someone help me out with a translation of "I love you." or "I care for you deeply"? any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

[Kesvirit]

Finally, a request I can grant! }};-)

"I love you." = {qabang}

Caveat: This form involves verbifying a noun, which may get you attitude from the language purists. If the object of your affections is of this ilk, perhaps try {qaparHa''a}, "I like you a lot."

[Warrior_of_Kahless]

Lol thanks a lot! Ill prolly be asking a lot of questions about Klingon Language and whatnot...so be prepared  ..Oh...I remembered a quote...and I wonder what it would be in Klingon..."The enemy of my enemy is my friend indeed."

[ngabwI]

Hello, qeylIS SuvwI'! My name's ngabwI', and I try to handle the translation requests around here, but have recently fallen into arrears.

Apologies.

Now onto your questions.

The most commonly accepted way of saying something like this is, indeed, {qaparHa'}, as suggested by Kesvirit (hey, Kesv!).

It means something like "I unhate you!"

and

{jupwI' ghaHbej jaghwI' jagh'e'}
"My enemy's enemy is definitely my friend."

Feel free to post requests here. I'll be stalking this area, so ask away!

Till then,

--ngabs

[El Payaso Malo]

Finally, a request I can grant! }};-)

"I love you." = {qabang}

Caveat: This form involves verbifying a noun, which may get you attitude from the language purists. If the object of your affections is of this ilk, perhaps try {qaparHa''a}, "I like you a lot."

bang is a person. It means "loved one," not "love" (I learned that the hard way and almost made an enemy of someone I respect over that word. ) And in qaparHa''a', that means "Do I like you?" The -'a' prefix only augments nouns, with verbs it turns it into a yes or no question.

I'm not sure why I bothered posting on this, since the original poster hasn't logged in in about five years. I guess it's because I am wrong so often, it feels good to be right every once in a while; like I'm actually learning something about the language (I guess I have a failure complex and I'm hoping there's a cream for it).

The most commonly accepted way of saying something like this is, indeed, {qaparHa'}, as suggested by Kesvirit (hey, Kesv!).

Doesn't that just mean "I like you"? The -Ha' prefix is given to mean "undo," and in examples it makes the words mean the opposite (although it goes into detail to say that -Ha' implies the action is done incorrectly, apparently to the point of inversion). Indeed, The Klingon Dictionary lists parHa' as "like." The original poster wanted something more emotional than just the casual approval that parHa' implies. In this situation, I would use qamuSHa'. Since par means "dislike" and parHa' means "like" (or "dislike incorrectly to the point of reversal"), then it seems to me that that can work with muS, as it means "hate," which is a very strong dislike. Therefore, I believe muSHa' could mean "love" in the way the original poster was looking for. I haven't seen any canon examples of it, though. If I'm wrong, please correct me. If you are the person I am thinking you are, then you are/were head grammarian for the Klingon Language Institute (a VERY prestigious position to me), and are/were very involved with the group, and therefore would know better than I. It just seems to me that qamuSHa' works better than qaparHa' in this situation, since the latter I would say to a buddy and the former I would say to a lover or a grandparent, as it seems more intimate and emotional (as much as a word that means something like "I hate you incorrectly to the point of inversion" can be, anyway.

Now that I think about it, could I use HeghHa' for "come back to life" and HeghmoHHa" for "resurrect?" If so, I would suggest them to the people tasked with translating the Bible, in the unlikely event that they hadn't thought of them before I did.

[qurgh_]

I'm not sure why I bothered posting on this, since the original poster hasn't logged in in about five years. I guess it's because I am wrong so often, it feels good to be right every once in a while; like I'm actually learning something about the language (I guess I have a failure complex and I'm hoping there's a cream for it).

Because it starts interesting conversations like this one.

I'm going to note that qabang is just as wrong in Klingon as it is in English: I loved one you. You can't "loved one" someone, but someone can be your "loved one".

The most commonly accepted way of saying something like this is, indeed, {qaparHa'}, as suggested by Kesvirit (hey, Kesv!).

Doesn't that just mean "I like you"? The -Ha' prefix is given to mean "undo," and in examples it makes the words mean the opposite (although it goes into detail to say that -Ha' implies the action is done incorrectly, apparently to the point of inversion). Indeed, The Klingon Dictionary lists parHa' as "like." The original poster wanted something more emotional than just the casual approval that parHa' implies. In this situation, I would use qamuSHa'. Since par means "dislike" and parHa' means "like" (or "dislike incorrectly to the point of reversal"), then it seems to me that that can work with muS, as it means "hate," which is a very strong dislike. Therefore, I believe muSHa' could mean "love" in the way the original poster was looking for. I haven't seen any canon examples of it, though. If I'm wrong, please correct me. If you are the person I am thinking you are, then you are/were head grammarian for the Klingon Language Institute (a VERY prestigious position to me), and are/were very involved with the group, and therefore would know better than I. It just seems to me that qamuSHa' works better than qaparHa' in this situation, since the latter I would say to a buddy and the former I would say to a lover or a grandparent, as it seems more intimate and emotional (as much as a word that means something like "I hate you incorrectly to the point of inversion" can be, anyway.

Now that I think about it, could I use HeghHa' for "come back to life" and HeghmoHHa" for "resurrect?" If so, I would suggest them to the people tasked with translating the Bible, in the unlikely event that they hadn't thought of them before I did.

I don't believe that a Klingon would express his emotional attachment to someone by saying qamuSHa' - I dis-hate you (Note: parHa' means dis-dis-like, the two negatives cancel themselves out). I'd probably go with one of these:

bangwI' SoH - You are my beloved (emotional love)
qaSaHqu' - I really care about you
parmaqqaywI' SoH - You are my lover (physical love)

We have some canon for this from Star Trek III:

Valkris: Qapla', joHwI' bangwI' je - Sucess, my lord and my beloved

That's how she expressed her love of Kruge.

[El Payaso Malo]

Those are all excellent expressions, but does that mean that qamuSHa' should be discredited entirely? After all, it does have brevity on its side and would be easy to say on a telephone and people would know what you mean, yes?

Also, I was under the impression that -Ha' was similar to English un-, dis-, de- and mis-. In English, competent is positive and adding in- would make incompetent, a negative. The reverse would be true in Klingon, since tlhIb ("be incompetent") is a positive and thlIbHa' ("be competent") is a negative.

Of course, my usage of muSHa' for the verb "love" is based on other instances of the -Ha' suffix:
tung - "discourage" -- tungHa' - "encourage"
ghom - "meet; assemble" -- ghomHa' -"scatter; disperse"
pIj - "often" -- pIjHa' - "seldom"
bel - "be pleased" -- belHa' - "be displeased"
buS - "concentrate on" -- buSHa' "ignore"
ghaytan - "likely" --  ghaytanHa' - "unlikely"
jej - "sharp" -- jejHa' - "dull"
... plus many, many more.
Based on these, if I saw ghItlhHa', I would assume it means "erase."

[El Payaso Malo]

In the new book paq'batlh, Okrand uses

SaqSub'e' musHa'bogh
pawmeH leng qeylIS
HuDmey Sal ghIq ghIr

And Kahless traveled to
His beloved Saq'sub
Over the mountains

So I guess I was right. I feel kinda good about that.