Maybe they should change Qo'noS's name

[kmtal]

A couple months back, on a boring day, I decided to check out the broken down meaning of "Qo'noS." You're not going to beleive what I got:

Qo'= don't! won't!
as for noS
noSvagh: deodorant.
So:

(I) won;t (use) deodorant!

oy!

[SoplaHtaHwI']

oy!

You mean 'oy'  (ache, pain, sore (n) or ache, hurt (v)) ofcourse...

[Kesvirit]

" 'Oy' is not a word; it is a vocabulary." -- Leo Rosten, The Joys of Yiddish

-=- Kesvirit

[kmtal]

oooooooook i wasnt talkin klingon with the oy. but seriously though, isnt that something? why would okrand do that to us Klingons?!

[SoplaHtaHwI']

(I) won;t (use) deodorant!

Not so much "I won't use deodorant" because that would be noSvagh jIQo! (I don't deodorant if you take the liberty of making the noun into a verb...).

It would (with a similar liberty) mean "the deodorant does not use him/her/it"
Not as an imperative, however.

8-?

To be honest I doubt Qo'noS and deodorant have much to do with each other...    

[voraq]

Remember what Terrans think about Klingon Body Odor.  As one of the assassin's said in the scene when the Klingon Delegate left the transporter room on their way to the "Officer's Mess" in ST6 (DVD version at least).  "Did you notice the stench."

Maybe this was Okrand's idea of an inside joke.  Only those who spoke tlhIngan Hol would pick up on the "Klingon Odor" remarks.

[weslipuqlod]

tlhIngan Hol for deodorant is clearly noSvagh, not noS.  The name of the Klingon Homeworld is Qo'noS not Qo'noSvagh.  Actually, noS is a verb defined as "eat in small mouthfuls, nibble".

Regardless of definition I see no correlation.  Qo'noS is one word, without prefix or suffix.  While Okrand has an absurd sense of humor and does frequently work puns and inside jokes into the language I seriously doubt this was one of them.

More realistically, Qo'noS was probably Okrand's best attempt at establishing the proper noun spelling for ST:VI's "Kronos".  If there is a hidden meaning then it was applied by the Paramount writers in their ignorant dismissal of established work - not by Okrand.  

[qoSagh]

I realize that the word order isn't right, but given the original post, and the recent post translating noS......

wouldn't Qo'noS be Don't eat small mouthfuls? This could well be something that Klingon parents tell thier children. Don't eat small, eat large like a Klingon. I think these are pretty good words to live by.

Of course it could more propperly be small mouthful's don't (eat) much like the deoderant doesn't use it. So perhaps the operative proverb is small bites don't bite back.  Or: If you tear apart your food it will die before it get to your throat.

[SoplaHtaHwI']

Just to go on with the free association:

{Qo'} means "I won't" {noS} means "to eat small bit(e)s"
To be a sentence, you would need to make it either {Qo' noS} or {noS Qo'}, not {Qo'noS}.
You can't simply create a prefix (which does not [yet] exist) out of a verb/negation.
Further if you use the adjective {-Qo'}, it would be {noSQo'}, not {Qo'noS}...

{noSQo'} would be "eat (with) small bit(e)s, don't!", or indeed "don't eat (with) small bites!"
 

[AJBlue98]

Remember what Terrans think about Klingon Body Odor.  As one of the assassin's said in the scene when the Klingon Delegate left the transporter room on their way to the "Officer's Mess" in ST6 (DVD version at least).  "Did you notice the stench."

Maybe this was Okrand's idea of an inside joke.  Only those who spoke tlhIngan Hol would pick up on the "Klingon Odor" remarks.

Perhaps.  Remember STIV, McCoy:  “I wish we could cloak the stench!”

But I rather think that since the English spelling is “Kronos,” it's more likely that Gene Roddenberry named it for the Greek god Cronus (an alternate spelling of the same name), who was the father of Zeus.  This doesn't quite fit, of course, with Gene's “map of the galaxy” in which the Romulan Empire symbolized the USSR and the Klingon Empire symbolized China.  But then, he *did* name Romulus and Remus for the two mythical brothers who built Rome on seven hills.

Perhaps he just liked the idea of supplementing God with mythological allusions.

Perhaps he just like the mythological allusions.  He did, after all, name his other show “Andromeda.”

[voraq]

That is a great possibility.  I tend to forget that  Gene was still recomending and "okaying" scripts when ST6 was written.  I also tend to overlook Cronus' role in mythology.
 

[Kesvirit]

Maybe they should change {Qo'noS}'s name "back" to Klinzhai.  It is so much easier not to misspell.

-=- Kesvirit

[torqey]

A couple months back, on a boring day, I decided to check out the broken down meaning of "Qo'noS." You're not going to beleive what I got:

Qo'= don't! won't!
as for noS
noSvagh: deodorant.
So:

(I) won;t (use) deodorant!

oy!

Actually, that would be, "deodorant won't use me" because it goes object-verb-subject