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"From Abaddon's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath..."
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"From Abaddon's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath..."
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04 07, 2010, 08:46: PM »
From Abaddon's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee...
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tesseraktik
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Re: "From Abaddon's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath..."
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04 08, 2010, 12:12: PM »
For those who are wondering "Abaddon" is the word filter's word for the fiery place where doomed souls go for all eternity.
(Interestingly, due to my browser's language settings,
THIS
is what Wikipedia's article on Abaddon looks like; notice the
pIqaD
and Klinzhai glyphs)
Anyhow:
I suppose a very literal translation would be:
ghe''or tIqvo' qaDuQ 'e' vInID. qamuSmo' tlhuHwIj Qav vItlhIS.
ghe''or
- The netherworld (where dishonored go)
tIqvo'
- From the heart
ghe''or tIqvo'
- From the heart of the netherworld
qaDuQ
- I stab you
'e'
- that/to
vInID
- I attempt it
qaDuQ 'e' vInID
- I attempt to stab you
qamuSmo'
- Because I hate you (also consider simply
jImuSmo'
- "because I hate")
tlhuHwIj
- my breath
Qav
- be final, be last
vItlhIS
- I spit it
qamuSmo' tlhuSwIj Qav vItlhIS.
- Because I hate you I spit my last breath.
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El Payaso Malo
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jaS jIvang-ghopwIj luQIHlu'chugh qIvonlIj vIpuplaH
Re: "From Abaddon's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath..."
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09 13, 2010, 04:39: PM »
That is a VERY good translation! I am impressed! With your permission, I'd like to use that in the short story that I'm writing.
ghe''or
can also be
ghe'tor
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-ngoQ ghajnISbe' vIq. vIq ngoQ 'oH vIq. qatlh ngej rop'a' bIghelbe' 'ej qatlh meQ yotlh bIghelbe'. jISuvDI' meqwIj vIQIj 'e' DaghelQo'.
-qul ngaDHa' 'oH QeHwIj 'ej vaHbo' pubbogh 'Iw 'oH QeHwIj. choHIvmo' qaSuvbe'. bIyIntaHmo' qaSuv.
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Re: "From Abaddon's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath..."
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09 14, 2010, 04:21: PM »
Quote from: El Payaso Malo II on 09 13, 2010, 04:39: PM
That is a VERY good translation! I am impressed! With your permission, I'd like to use that in the short story that I'm writing.
ghe''or
can also be
ghe'tor
.
choquvmoH. Dalo' 'e' vIchaw'.
{You honor me. I allow that you use it.}
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Re: "From Abaddon's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath..."
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qatlho'bej
Thanks!
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-'IwwIjDaq 'oH veS.
-ngoQ ghajnISbe' vIq. vIq ngoQ 'oH vIq. qatlh ngej rop'a' bIghelbe' 'ej qatlh meQ yotlh bIghelbe'. jISuvDI' meqwIj vIQIj 'e' DaghelQo'.
-qul ngaDHa' 'oH QeHwIj 'ej vaHbo' pubbogh 'Iw 'oH QeHwIj. choHIvmo' qaSuvbe'. bIyIntaHmo' qaSuv.
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Re: "From Abaddon's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath..."
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09 16, 2010, 09:55: AM »
I always thought that "From Hell's heart" meant "from the center of hell" since Hell is a place and doesn't actually have a heart.
ghe''or botlhvo'
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From the middle of the underworld
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Re: "From Abaddon's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath..."
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09 16, 2010, 10:40: AM »
Sure, but English and Klingon both use the heart idiomatically in the same ways.
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-'IwwIjDaq 'oH veS.
-ngoQ ghajnISbe' vIq. vIq ngoQ 'oH vIq. qatlh ngej rop'a' bIghelbe' 'ej qatlh meQ yotlh bIghelbe'. jISuvDI' meqwIj vIQIj 'e' DaghelQo'.
-qul ngaDHa' 'oH QeHwIj 'ej vaHbo' pubbogh 'Iw 'oH QeHwIj. choHIvmo' qaSuvbe'. bIyIntaHmo' qaSuv.
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Re: "From Abaddon's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath..."
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09 16, 2010, 11:15: AM »
Aye, I reasoned much the same way; the heart is not so much a metaphor for the middle region of Hell/ghe'tor, but rather the very spirit of the place.
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Re: "From Abaddon's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath..."
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09 16, 2010, 08:33: PM »
Fair enough. I have a tendency to remove idiom from a phrase before I translate it. It probably means I miss some chances to use more colourful Klingon, but it tends to make the translations easier people who aren't familiar with the idioms.
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Re: "From Abaddon's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath..."
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09 16, 2010, 11:19: PM »
Understandable, but understanding a language involves understanding its slang and idioms, and Klingon has many, like any language.
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-ngoQ ghajnISbe' vIq. vIq ngoQ 'oH vIq. qatlh ngej rop'a' bIghelbe' 'ej qatlh meQ yotlh bIghelbe'. jISuvDI' meqwIj vIQIj 'e' DaghelQo'.
-qul ngaDHa' 'oH QeHwIj 'ej vaHbo' pubbogh 'Iw 'oH QeHwIj. choHIvmo' qaSuvbe'. bIyIntaHmo' qaSuv.
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