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« on: 04 07, 2010, 08:46: PM »

From Abaddon's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee...
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« Reply #1 on: 04 08, 2010, 12:12: PM »

For those who are wondering "Abaddon" is the word filter's word for the fiery place where doomed souls go for all eternity.
(Interestingly, due to my browser's language settings, THIS is what Wikipedia's article on Abaddon looks like; notice the pIqaD and Klinzhai glyphs)

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I suppose a very literal translation would be:  ghe''or tIqvo' qaDuQ 'e' vInID.  qamuSmo' tlhuHwIj Qav vItlhIS.

ghe''or - The netherworld (where dishonored go)
tIqvo' - From the heart
ghe''or tIqvo' - From the heart of the netherworld

qaDuQ - I stab you
'e' - that/to
vInID - I attempt it
qaDuQ 'e' vInID - I attempt to stab you

qamuSmo' - Because I hate you (also consider simply jImuSmo' - "because I hate")
tlhuHwIj - my breath
Qav - be final, be last
vItlhIS - I spit it
qamuSmo' tlhuSwIj Qav vItlhIS. - Because I hate you I spit my last breath.
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« Reply #2 on: 09 13, 2010, 04:39: PM »

That is a VERY good translation! I am impressed! With your permission, I'd like to use that in the short story that I'm writing.

ghe''or can also be ghe'torWink
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-ngoQ ghajnISbe' vIq. vIq ngoQ 'oH vIq. qatlh ngej rop'a' bIghelbe' 'ej qatlh meQ yotlh bIghelbe'. jISuvDI' meqwIj vIQIj 'e' DaghelQo'.
-qul ngaDHa' 'oH QeHwIj 'ej vaHbo' pubbogh 'Iw 'oH QeHwIj. choHIvmo' qaSuvbe'. bIyIntaHmo' qaSuv.
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« Reply #3 on: 09 14, 2010, 04:21: PM »

That is a VERY good translation! I am impressed! With your permission, I'd like to use that in the short story that I'm writing.

ghe''or can also be ghe'torWink
choquvmoH.  Dalo' 'e' vIchaw'. {You honor me.  I allow that you use it.}
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« Reply #4 on: 09 14, 2010, 06:20: PM »

qatlho'bej

Thanks!
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-ngoQ ghajnISbe' vIq. vIq ngoQ 'oH vIq. qatlh ngej rop'a' bIghelbe' 'ej qatlh meQ yotlh bIghelbe'. jISuvDI' meqwIj vIQIj 'e' DaghelQo'.
-qul ngaDHa' 'oH QeHwIj 'ej vaHbo' pubbogh 'Iw 'oH QeHwIj. choHIvmo' qaSuvbe'. bIyIntaHmo' qaSuv.
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« Reply #5 on: 09 16, 2010, 09:55: AM »

I always thought that "From Hell's heart" meant "from the center of hell" since Hell is a place and doesn't actually have a heart.

ghe''or botlhvo' - From the middle of the underworld
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« Reply #6 on: 09 16, 2010, 10:40: AM »

Sure, but English and Klingon both use the heart idiomatically in the same ways.
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-ngoQ ghajnISbe' vIq. vIq ngoQ 'oH vIq. qatlh ngej rop'a' bIghelbe' 'ej qatlh meQ yotlh bIghelbe'. jISuvDI' meqwIj vIQIj 'e' DaghelQo'.
-qul ngaDHa' 'oH QeHwIj 'ej vaHbo' pubbogh 'Iw 'oH QeHwIj. choHIvmo' qaSuvbe'. bIyIntaHmo' qaSuv.
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« Reply #7 on: 09 16, 2010, 11:15: AM »

Aye, I reasoned much the same way; the heart is not so much a metaphor for the middle region of Hell/ghe'tor, but rather the very spirit of the place.
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« Reply #8 on: 09 16, 2010, 08:33: PM »

Fair enough. I have a tendency to remove idiom from a phrase before I translate it. It probably means I miss some chances to use more colourful Klingon, but it tends to make the translations easier people who aren't familiar with the idioms.
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« Reply #9 on: 09 16, 2010, 11:19: PM »

Understandable, but understanding a language involves understanding its slang and idioms, and Klingon has many, like any language.
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-'IwwIjDaq 'oH veS.
-ngoQ ghajnISbe' vIq. vIq ngoQ 'oH vIq. qatlh ngej rop'a' bIghelbe' 'ej qatlh meQ yotlh bIghelbe'. jISuvDI' meqwIj vIQIj 'e' DaghelQo'.
-qul ngaDHa' 'oH QeHwIj 'ej vaHbo' pubbogh 'Iw 'oH QeHwIj. choHIvmo' qaSuvbe'. bIyIntaHmo' qaSuv.
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