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« on: 12 01, 2009, 09:05: AM »

My name is Be'quvIt, and I am new to this forum.  I am very interested to learn more about Klingon religious traditions and what leadership roles, if any, Klingon women may have.  Outside of fandom I am a Lutheran minister, so I am seeing how I can tie that in as I develop my Klingon character.
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« Reply #1 on: 12 05, 2009, 07:40: PM »

    Good!  Welcome to the Klingon Imperial Forums.  This is definitely the place for serious discussion and speculation of Klingons their culture and the whole Klingon experience.

 I'm looking forward to discussing such things with you and Abbott vIt nej.  I hope he will introduce himself to you soon as well.  I am sure he has much to say on the leadership of his own order.    The Klingon Empire is vast, and there are many religious beliefs and organizations within the Empire as well as many different cultures with in the Empire that have differing values and ideas about equality and gender roles and how much relevance they should have.

    I'd argue that this is fandom, it's all fiction and fantasy.  Most of Klingon culture is an open book.  We can guess and fill in details in broad strokes, but any fine details are creative inventions. of our own fantasy.  Roddenberry and Brannon Braga were devout Atheists.  Their vision of the future is a universe devoid of religion, but each author brings their own experiences to their stories.  While we fans don't have published novels, we still create small bits of stories.

    Sorry... I do tend to ramble...  Again I look forward to discussing this kind of stuff with you in detail with you, but this thread is about you..  How long have you been a fan?   What is it about Klingos that appeals to a Lutheran Minister? }}:P
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« Reply #2 on: 12 07, 2009, 04:31: AM »

   
 I'm looking forward to discussing such things with you and Abbott vIt nej. 

I think you mean Abbot nej vIt
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« Reply #3 on: 12 13, 2009, 04:37: AM »

I can think of at least two canon religious traditions, the first of course being that long held beliefe that the Klingons killed their gods. The scond being the belief in the second coming of Kahless.

Next I would go back to the novel Pawns and Symbols, where there was at least one planet with women wearing veils and walking behind the males, this was a Klingon world populated by Klingons. The book did not go into very much detail.

The Dragon/God Durgoth comes from the novels, as does the goddess Cymele. The Black fleet started out in novels and was then codified into a video game.

Within fandom there are many groups. The first I ever encountered was the Theld Azhir, which was a Norse like group. After that would be m own group the qaptaQ, which the internet seem to think is about vikings, but it is not. Next there is the chIrgh presided over by the Abbott Nej vIt. There is the monastery of Grethor, which seeks to return the gods to their once and future glory. I have come across some translations of Anton Levay's works but I think they stop just short f an organized group.

As for a female specific group, I have found two. There is one that is a chapter within KLAW 4th Fleet, who's name escapes me right now. There is/was a group of female warriors who rode horses and seems to do a bot of blood magic as part of their fandom.

Each of these groups will (just as earth does) likely have it's own rules as far as clergy and leadership.

I have found that except in one case, most of those who play Klingon clerics are not such in real life. I even knew a Presbyterian minister who preached at Khitomer (well actually his church was used as the peace conference set) but he role-played as a warrior & battle surgeon, not a religious leader. It is not my place to tell you how to be Klingon, but I would say that half the fun of developing personas is making them different from ourselves.


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