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« on: 09 16, 2009, 06:19: PM »

I hope to learn more Klingon but I came here looking for some Phonics for Klingon for the non fan. I have learned a small bit of Klingon myself. I am having a wedding and need some short phrases for getting us up for kissing. May your blood scream, success, Klingons Forever that kind of stuff. There will be fan friends there but most are not like me LOL. Cheesy Just trying to make the guests work for it a bit.
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« Reply #1 on: 09 18, 2009, 03:03: AM »

Directions for the pronunciation of letters as used in tlhIngan Hol can be found here. Click on the red letters to hear them spoken.

As for your need of some short, inspirational phrases, well, get to writing! You know the characteristics of the couple and the wedding party better than do new acquaintances on a discussion board, and if you are close enough to the bridal couple to be asked to speak at their wedding, or a member of it, you have better knowledge of what will likely inspire them to kiss than we do.

Once you have translated your phrases from English? Teranglo? FedStandard? into what thlIngan you do know, post both the originals and the end results here or in the Requests for Translation section. Hopefully someone with the requisite knowledge can correct any mistakes you make and propose changes to better convey the nuances you intend. Or, to use the vernacular peculiar to this BFE-forgotten posting, “Throw up the flag pole and see what salutes.”

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« Reply #2 on: 09 18, 2009, 08:21: AM »

Well I hope I know the couple well since we are the ones getting married. I hoped there might be some site for making Klingon easy for the guests. Qa pla'   To spell it like it sounds. kaa plaa. I know there are all the intricacies of making the sounds for really learning to speak Klingon properly and how some sounds get clipped of quick and short which can change the meaning of the word. But this is a wedding a not a Klingons only convention LOL
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« Reply #3 on: 09 19, 2009, 08:52: AM »

I hoped there might be some site for making Klingon easy for the guests. Qa pla'   To spell it like it sounds. kaa plaa.

Klingon is spelled like it sounds. It just doesn't sound very much like any other language on the planet, so you aren't going to find a simple yet faithful transcription that the average wedding guest can use without explanation. You can make it very easy, or you can make it sound good. Your choice.

The page Kesvirit linked to is a good guide to making it sound good. There are no pages I know of that make it very easy; that would run counter to a goal of being able to use Klingon for face-to-face communication.  If you replace all H with kh and all Q with kkkh, you might come close. Find a way to describe the half-grunt of a glottal stop and you might come closer.

By the way, Qapla' doesn't sound like kaa plaa (unless you're an actor on a TV show who hasn't studied Klingon). The first syllable is Qap and the second is la'. If you want to express that in a way that the average wedding guest will have a good chance of getting right, try kkkhap-LA(hic).
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« Reply #4 on: 09 20, 2009, 07:46: AM »

Thanks a bunch! I may gather a few phrases and post them back here to see what you think. And maybe have them adjusted.
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« Reply #5 on: 09 21, 2009, 10:37: AM »

Hi Nagaloo,

Maybe if you can be specific in what you would like to say some of us could make soundfiles containing the text with the appropriate pronunciation.
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« Reply #6 on: 10 17, 2009, 05:45: AM »

The wedding was a blast. No Klingons were sent to the brig. Some might see that as a negative. My cousin did the MC duties and with the help of a co-worker amazed me. ST trivia and a laser cut, to scale tlhIngan betleH (Klingon Sword) Another cousin who is a Trek fan got up and spoke one of my "phrases to kiss" and did such a good job of the Klingon my wife jumped in her seat and I thought it sounded good enough to have come from an episode. Thanks for every ones help and links. Love your forum here, I will be back to learn more Klingon.
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