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Jazzman
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Out of curiosity, I recently bought the
Ultralingua
Klingon Language Suite for my iPhone - mainly as a gimmick for my kids.
The audio tool for learning pronunciation was recorded by the actor Michael Dorn who played Worf. Excellent
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Qunchuy
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Quote from: Jazzman on 05 17, 2009, 01:28: AM
The audio tool for learning pronunciation was recorded by the actor Michael Dorn who played Worf. Excellent
The parts with actual Klingon language spoken were recorded by the linguist Marc Okrand, who devised the language in the first place. It would be harder to get more excellent than that.
Almost any time the Ultralingua application displays the simultaneous split-screen English and Klingon text, it's showing what Okrand is speaking.
On the other hand, Dorn's Klingon pronunciation is typical for an actor without linguistics training or even a casual interest in languages -- which is to say, pretty bad from the point of view of someone who can speak conversational Klingon.
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Kaz Son of Maktan
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Ultralingua Klingon Language Suite for iPhone
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05 23, 2009, 02:59: PM »
Hmm...It sounds like the audio for the iPhone Ultralingua Suite is taken from the Conversational Klingon or Power Klingon audiobooks where Michael Dorn was the narrator, but Mr Okrand gave the full language lessons.
Would you concur? Also, ter'es' klin films are great!
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The Ultralingua Klingon "Conversation" application contains the entire contents of the Conversational Klingon tape, all 49+ minutes of it. I believe the addition of easily-navigated sections and on-screen text enhances the experience greatly. Kudos to Simon & Schuster for making the leap to this medium!
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Kaz Son of Maktan
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Wow...Look at them. That's great! Someday, when my contracts up, I'll look forward to getting an iphone with tlhingan Hol!
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Quote from: Qunchuy on 05 23, 2009, 04:10: PM
The Ultralingua Klingon "Conversation" application contains the entire contents of the Conversational Klingon tape, all 49+ minutes of it. I believe the addition of easily-navigated sections and on-screen text enhances the experience greatly. Kudos to Simon & Schuster for making the leap to this medium!
Is there any new content since the tapes where made? Is the
noon
mistake fixed?
wa'maH cha' vatlh rep
instead of
cha'maH wa' vatlh rep
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Quote from: QoghtlhIH'u' on 05 26, 2009, 04:44: AM
Is the
noon
mistake fixed?
Nothing was added or edited. The audio is exactly as it was originally produced, mistakes and all. The error you speak of is noted as such in the on-screen text, however.
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You seem to have this Ultralingua gadget with Conversational Klingon, Qunchuy.
Please help me out. I have been listening over and over to CK and PK. I have tried to produce the written version myself and often the exact pronunciation is not audible.
From CK track 14 Recreation:
Klingon warriors are butting heads
I made of the Klingon spoken text:
qIp'egh nachDu'chaj tlhingan SuvwI'pu'
Literally the last version would be:
Their heads Klingon warriors hit eachother
Is my Klingon text correct according to Ultralingua?
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Quote from: QoghtlhIH'u' on 05 28, 2009, 03:02: AM
qIp'egh nachDu'chaj tlhingan SuvwI'pu'
Yep, that's what he says. I see you've noticed that it's not quite grammatically proper. That's one of the "mistakes and all" I mentioned. To be fair, errors in word order like that happen all the time in real conversation.
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One particular nasty thing in Klingon is that the preposition "with" is not part of the language. So if I had to say that Klingon warriors are hitting eachother with their heads I would make:
nachDu'chaj lo'taHvIS qIp'egh tlhIngan SuvwI'pu'
Using their heads Klingon warriors hit eachother.
or
qIp'egh nachDu' tlhIngan SuvwI'pu'
The heads of Klingon warriors hit eachother.
The last one is shorter and the
-chaj
suffix is not necessary. Maybe this is what was intended to be said in the first place.
In general the third person possesive suffix is hardly ever necessary, singular or plural.
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or
nachDu'chaj ngeQchuqmoH tlhIngan SuvwI'pu'
Klingon warriors are causing their heads to bump into eachother.
I think
qIp'egh
should be
qIpchuq
in the CK example.
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