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jIHaD
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The Days of the Week in Klingon
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01 27, 2009, 07:39: PM »
I've been thinking on this for a bit, and I'm wondering: Are there commonly-used words for the days of the week in
tlhIngan Hol
?
If there aren't, I've worked up two separate schemes. One is based on a mix of the English and Latin names, and the other is based on the Eastern naming conventions.
English/Latin:
Sunday - "Sun-day":
Hovjaj
"star-day"
Monday - "Moon-day":
maSjaj
"moon-day"
Tuesday - "Tyr's day," Tyr=Mars=god of war:
veSjaj
"war-day"
Wednesday - "Woden's day," Woden=Mercury=god of trade/profit/commerce:
mechjaj
"trade day" or
ngevjaj
"sell-day"
Thursday - "Thor's day," Thor=god of thunder:
jevjaj
"storm-day"
Friday - "Frigg's day," Frigg=Venus=goddess of love:
bangjaj
or
parmaqjaj
"love-day"
Saturday - "Saturn's day," Saturn=god of agriculture/justice/strength:
Satlhjaj
"agriculture-day" or
ruvjaj
"justice-day" or
HoSjaj
"strength-day"
Eastern:
Sunday - sun:
Hovjaj
"star-day"
Monday - moon:
maSjaj
"moon-day"
Tuesday - fire:
quljaj
"fire-day"
Wednesday - water:
bIQjaj
"water-day"
Thursday - wood:
Sorjaj
"tree-day"
Friday - metal:
baSjaj
"metal-day"
Saturday - earth:
lamjaj
"dirt-day"
Personally, I like both of these, but I think the Klingons might tend more towards the Eastern elemental scheme than the god-based English scheme.
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Re: The Days of the Week in Klingon
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01 28, 2009, 07:14: AM »
I always thought that Wodan or Woden or Odin is the chief of the gods of the Germanic peoples.
The fact that English Wednesday, Dutch Woensdag, German Mittwoch (middle of the week) equals the French Mercredi does not mean that the Odin is the equivalent of Mercurius.
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Re: The Days of the Week in Klingon
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01 28, 2009, 08:54: AM »
As people like drawing parallels between Klingons and Vikings, here comes a Norse version:
Ancient Swedish - English -
tlhIngan Hol
-
Explanation
Manadagher - Måne's day -
maSjaj
=
moon
-
day
-
Måne is the personification of the Moon in Norse mythology.
Tisdagher - Tyr's day -
veSjaj
=
warfare
-
day
or
rIpjaj
=
assembly
-
day
or
Qunjaj
=
Deity
-
day
-
Týr (or "Ti") is commonly associated with warfare and likened to Mars and Ares. He is also commonly associated with the "Folketing", which was a governing assembly in ancient times (Tyr is also the God of Justice in "Forgotten Realms"
). Furthermore, the word 'Týr' is Icelandic for 'deity'; Týr is sometimes said to have been the first of the great gods. Now, because these are Klingons, one might figure they should certainly have a day that celebrates warfare... ...but on the other hand,
veSjaj 'oH Hoch jaj
{ Every day is warfare day! }. As for the deities, Klingons thought their gods were "more trouble than they were worth", so if they celebrate deity-day they probably do so to commemorate their victory over these gods.
Óðinsdagher - Odin's day -
vavjaj
=
father
-
day
or
veSjaj
=
warfare
-
day
or
Heghjaj
=
death
-
day
or
'Ipjaj
=
oath
-
day
or
bomjaj
=
song
-
day
or
jaj'a'
=
important day
or
QInjaj
=
spearhead
-
day
-
Odin is commonly thought of as a father figure, is the god of warfare, poetry and death, and he is also commonly accepted as the greatest of the Norse gods (hence
jaj'a'
). I also added "oath day" because "oden" is Swedish for "the oath", and this has been used in some texts. He's also known for his spear, Gungner, so I added
QInjaj
(went with the word for "spearhead" rather than "spear" in order to keep it down to two syllables like the others).
I figure Klingons would probably admire his eight-legged horse, Sleipner;
bIraqluljaj
{ redundant body part day }, anybody?
Þorsdagher - Thor's day -
SuSjaj
=
wind
-
day
or
mupwI'jaj
=
hammer
-
day
or
jaj'a'
=
important day
-
Thor is the god of thunder; decided to go with
SuS
, rather than
jev
, as
jev
is a verb and I'm not quite sure if it means "to storm" as in that which a storm does or as in "Storm the fort!" He's also known for his great hammer, Mjölnaren, so I added
mupwI'jaj
; this would perhaps be clipped down to
mupjaj
.
Also added
jaj'a'
because the Thursday has been seen as a very particular day in Norse folklore; one of magic and great deeds.
Fredagher - Frigg's day
or
Freya's day -
SoSjaj
=
mother
-
day
or
bangjaj
=
love
-
day
or
ngaghjaj
=
mating day
-
It's uncertain if this day refers to Frigg or to Freja, but these two are very similar (and some say they're actually the same goddess), so it does not matter much for our intents and purposes. Frigg is commonly thought of as a goddess of love and is thought of as a mother figure, whereas Freja is thought of more as one of sex and fertility (I here use the verb
ngagh
, as I found no appropriate noun; I figure the names of Klingon days may very well be clipped Klingon, anyway).
Löghardagher - Bathing day -
Say'jaj
=
clean
-
day
or
lamjaj
=
dirt
-
day
-
Vikings - being a very clean people - had as a tradition to take a bath every Saturday (or at least to say they did
).
Say'
is a verb meaning
to be clean
, but one might also consider naming the day after dirt, as the dirt on your body becomes most noticeable when you wash it off.
Sunnodagher - Sol's day -
Hovjaj
=
star
-
day
or
wovjaj
=
light day
or
pemjaj
=
daytime day
-
Sol is the godess of the Sun in Norse mythology. Now, not having ever seen Klingons as the most scientific of peoples, I do think it's a bit strange that they don't have a particular word for "sun", but only one for "star"; I guess they probably had one, but it was forgotten, or
Hov
WAS their name for the sun, and then they stopped using their old word for "star" when they discovered how like their sun the stars were... ...but anyway, I figure the sun's day is the day of light, so I tried using
wov
(a verb, but used in conjoined words such as
maSwov
= moonlight) and
pem
(a bit strange, I guess, having a day of daytime, but still).
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As you can see, I've based this on ancient Swedish, as I am Swedish, myself. I wish I spoke Icelandic, because whenever I read an Icelandic
saga
or watch
Hrafninn flýgur
, I think to myself "Wow... ...these are
Klingon
stories!"
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Re: The Days of the Week in Klingon
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Do the Klingons have a week of 7 days by the way?
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Re: The Days of the Week in Klingon
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Quote from: QoghtlhIH'u' on 01 28, 2009, 10:26: AM
Do the Klingons have a week of 7 days by the way?
They do have a word for
week
(
Hogh
), but I haven't a clue how long it is. I believe the reason we have seven day weeks is largely due to the Abrahimic creation myth, in which God created the Earth in six days and rested on the seventh; there may be other reasons, too, but anyway it would be quite the coincidence if Klingons had seven-day weeks, too. Anyhow, we know that the month (
jar
) of Maktag is at least 43 days long, so it makes sense that they break their months down in smaller pieces.
If their week convention is fairly old, the number of days to a Klingon week could well be a multiple of three. Nine would make sense, as it is 3*3. Then, maybe once they defeated the Hur'q and went over to the decimal system, they incorporated a tenth day,
van'a'jaj
{ the trophy day }, to commemorate their victory
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Re: The Days of the Week in Klingon
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Quote from: jIHaD on 01 27, 2009, 07:39: PM
Saturday - "Saturn's day"
Saturday was named after Surter, a Norse fire demon/monster, not Saturn.
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