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« on: 01 10, 2009, 01:58: PM »

nuqneH

jIqeq tlhIngan Hol naDev

Qatlh

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« Reply #1 on: 01 14, 2009, 04:27: PM »

qajatlh

tlhIngan Hol vIqeq vIneH je'

Qatlhbej tlhIngan Hol

qeqlu'nIS

jIQaghchugh, QaghwIj HIQIj

DIvI' Hol Doych Hol je' vIghajlaH
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« Reply #2 on: 01 15, 2009, 07:57: AM »

qajatlh

tlhIngan Hol vIqeq vIneH je'

Qatlhbej tlhIngan Hol

qeqlu'nIS

jIQaghchugh, QaghwIj HIQIj

DIvI' Hol Doych Hol je' vIghajlaH

maj! Hoch DaghItlhbogh vIyajlaHchu'.

Two minor points:

-lu' is a Type 5 verb suffix and -nIS is Type 2, so it comes first: qeqnISlu'

Also, we usually say we speak a language, as in tlhIngan Hol DajatlhlaH'a'?
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« Reply #3 on: 01 15, 2009, 10:27: AM »

qatlh « nuqneH » Daghel . naDev jIvegh neH .


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To OmnificienT:  It is common around here to start conversations with nuqneH, and I can see why; Humans in many cultures need to say something like "Hello!" or "Good day to you!" when addressing somebody, because it's what we're used to, and because we think not doing so would be rude.  However, conversation in tlhIngan Hol are seldom polite; most pleasantries are considered to be superfluous.  As you are the one starting this conversation, I would recommend you simply state your business, although doing so may feel awkward.  Unless of course your question is "What the heck are you doing in my thread!?" Wink
Also, your word order is a bit off.  jIqeq tlhIngan Hol naDev reads roughly "I study.  Klingon.  Here."  This is first of all because Klingon uses Object-Verb-Subject word order, so "I practice Klingon." becomes more like "Klingon practice I."  Now, you have used a verb prefix to denote the subject (jI-, "I am the subject"), which is good, but you need one that says "I am the subject.  He/She/It is the object.", because you are referring to tlhIngan Hol in the third person.  The verb prefix that accomplishes this is vI-, so "I practice Klingon." becomes tlhIngan Hol vIqeq.
Also, although I don't think it's explicitly stated as a rule in The Klingon Dictionary, it seems location precedes the Object-Verb-Subject construction in all official examples, so I'd recommend moving naDev to the beginning of the sentence; naDev tlhIngan Hol vIqeq
tlhIngan Hol is not the easiest language to learn, but hang in there and I'm sure you'll get the hang of it!

Also, a note to tlhoy' chenmoHwI':  Be careful with je and je'; je means roughly and or also, whereas je' means to buy or to feed.
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« Reply #4 on: 01 15, 2009, 10:38: AM »

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"vIghajlaH" vIghItlhpu' 'ach "vIyajlaH" VighItlh vIneHpu'.

not tlhIngan Hol DaQoypu'.   naDev puSbej tlhInganpu'. vaj tlhIngan Hol vIjatlhlaHchugh  jISovbe'

vIqeqnIStaH

HIjatlhtaH
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« Reply #5 on: 01 15, 2009, 02:14: PM »

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jIQaghchugh, QaghwIj HIQIj

DIvI' Hol Doych Hol je' vIghajlaH

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« Reply #6 on: 01 15, 2009, 02:15: PM »

Satlho'

"vIghajlaH" vIghItlhpu' 'ach "vIyajlaH" VighItlh vIneHpu'.

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not tlhIngan Hol DaQoypu'.   

I actually have heard Klingon spoken in real time.  If you get the movie Earthlings, you can, too.  Thumbs up!

But more to the point, Klingon doesn't really have a generic "you" equivalent to "(some)one" as you've used the prefix above.  not tlhIngan Hol DaQoypu' literally states that I (ter'eS) have never heard Klingon, which we now know is not true. This is another job for the suffix -lu': not tlhIngan Hol Qoylu' "one never hears Klingon/ Klingon is never heard."
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« Reply #7 on: 01 15, 2009, 04:08: PM »

jIQaghqa'chu'pu'

vIlo'be'pu'  moHaq luch

luch "not tlhIngan Hol vIQoypu'"

"Earthlings" vItu'bej





 

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« Reply #8 on: 01 21, 2009, 02:25: AM »

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jIQaghchugh, QaghwIj HIQIj

DIvI' Hol Doych Hol je' vIghajlaH

vIyajbe'

What I am trying to say is
"If I make a mistake, explain where I went wrong"
"I understand English and German"     I made a mistake here in writing "ghaj" instead of "yaj"
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« Reply #9 on: 01 21, 2009, 04:20: AM »

"Earthlings"
tera'nganpu'
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« Reply #10 on: 01 21, 2009, 10:03: AM »

DIvI' Hol vIlo'pu' ter'es

"i will certainly find earthlings" vIghItlhqangbe'pu'

"I will certainly find Earthlings(the film)" vIghitlh vIneH

chay' mu'tlheghvam vIghItlh?
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« Reply #11 on: 01 21, 2009, 10:14: AM »

ter'eS qajatlh

Hov leng Qo'noS tamey vIleghta'

vIleghtaHvIS jIHaghpu'

DalIngtaH'a'
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« Reply #12 on: 01 21, 2009, 12:04: PM »

DIvI' Hol vIlo'pu' ter'es

"i will certainly find earthlings" vIghItlhqangbe'pu'

"I will certainly find Earthlings(the film)" vIghitlh vIneH

chay' mu'tlheghvam vIghItlh?

jISovchu'be'. "movie" "film" ghap 'oS pagh tlhIngan mu'. chaq  'oS "HaSta much" (visual display presentation)?  qechvetlh Dalajchugh, vaj "tera'nganpu' HaSta much vItu'bej" DaghItlhlaH.
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« Reply #13 on: 01 21, 2009, 12:18: PM »


jISovchu'be'. "movie" "film" ghap 'oS pagh tlhIngan mu'. chaq  'oS "HaSta much" (visual display presentation)?  qechvetlh Dalajchugh, vaj "tera'nganpu' HaSta much vItu'bej" DaghItlhlaH.
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qayajchu'

Hov leng Qo'noS tamey Hasta much DalIngtaH'a'
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« Reply #14 on: 01 22, 2009, 02:08: PM »


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Hov leng Qo'noS tamey Hasta much DalIngtaH'a'

chaq. DaH much vIgher, 'ach tlhIngan much 'oHbe' chaq 'e' DanoH: tlhIngan Hol vIlo'taHvIS, "Tradition" bom vImugh.  ghaytan Qo'noS ghoS ter'angan muchwI' ghom 'ej "bebdaQ ba' yachwI'" lumuch, 'ej wanI'vetlh qon HaSta muchwIj.
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« Reply #15 on: 01 22, 2009, 03:07: PM »

chaq. DaH much vIgher, 'ach tlhIngan much 'oHbe' chaq 'e' DanoH: tlhIngan Hol vIlo'taHvIS, "Tradition" bom vImugh.  ghaytan Qo'noS ghoS ter'angan muchwI' ghom 'ej "bebdaQ ba' yachwI'" lumuch, 'ej wanI'vetlh qon HaSta muchwIj.
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Perhaps.  I am compiling a presentation but perhaps not a Klingon presentation as you would judge it.Whilst I use tlhIngan Hol,  I translate the song”Tradition”. It is likely that an Earthling presenter will go to Kronos and present “cat on a hot tin roof”.
And my film will record this event.

QInlIjvad mugh luch bIH'a' mu'tlheghmeyvam?
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« Reply #16 on: 01 23, 2009, 01:44: PM »

QInlIjvad mugh luch bIH'a' mu'tlheghmeyvam?

HIja'. batlh DalaD. Except that the play they are presenting is "Fiddler on the Roof".  Since Klingons apparently don't have bowed instruments, I went with yach 'to strum', instead (the other would be baS beb tujDaq ba' vIghro'!).
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« Reply #17 on: 01 23, 2009, 02:37: PM »


HIja'. batlh DalaD. Except that the play they are presenting is "Fiddler on the Roof".  Since Klingons apparently don't have bowed instruments, I went with yach 'to strum', instead (the other would be baS beb tujDaq ba' vIghro'!).
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muchlIjvad Qapla' tIn daghajjaj

ghorgh muchlIj wIleghneS
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« Reply #18 on: 04 07, 2009, 09:24: PM »

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jIqeq tlhIngan Hol naDev

Qatlh

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People say not to start a conversation with nuqneH. I start sentences by introducing myself. You could say, "Omnificien jIH" and that would be like, "I am Omnificien". But maybe you already knew that Tongue
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