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« Reply #25 on: 09 02, 2008, 10:44: PM »

Well I'll see about throwing something together and send it in for everyone to view...
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« Reply #26 on: 09 21, 2008, 04:15: AM »

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As for the patch, I made an effort not to dominate the thread and had actually hoped that there would be another design or two posted to choose from.

As to dominating the thread: it is those who speak who are heard. Those who speak frequently tend to gain control of the thread. Those who object to this can easily put a stop to it by speaking up instead of being passive bystanders.

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As much as Klingons are not all that democratic, the forums are a bit more so. I guess this design is the presumptive candidate at this point.

Yes, democracy.... Some would consider it to be an ideal, but it never works in practice. If you try to please everyone you will end up pleasing no one, so an executive decision must be made eventually by Klythe and myself. However, I would like to get as much input as possible. Unless Klythe wants to challenge me for the privilege, I will distribute the results.

Kaz and D’ghor, I would be most pleased to see your designs. I believe that we can come closest to pleasing everybody who participates by mixing and matching features of the different submitted designs.

Setting aside for a moment the issues design and production, there are at least two other factors that need to be addressed:

 - Cost. I have no idea how much an individual patch would cost, particularly once any bulk discounts we may be eligible for have been applied. I hate to charge members for what amounts to their own service medals, but the KIDC cannot help with funding and no one Admin can foot the bill. Suggestions for funding? We could try an auction, but IIRC Kehlan’s results there have been disappointing. Can someone from K.L.A.W. 4th, KAG, etc. tell us how they come up with awards without charging dues?

 - Eligibility. At this point I recommend we go for a single patch based on post count. We don’t have the numbers to make it worthwhile to issue a separate rocker patch for each posting rank. If enough people get into it, we could issue a rocker patch for each year of KIF membership or something. But for now we’d do best to get the one patch designed, made, and distributed before taking on further projects. }}: / 
   Does 50 posts, at which one is promoted to Senior Courier, sound reasonable? Or 40, the point at which the first page of the  list of members by post count currently ends? Both are arbitrary numbers, but... *shrug*  I’m looking at the list of members for some sort of count pattern, but I don’t have the brains to find a median post count. Even if someone were to come up with one, the results would be misleading: many posters never found their way back after the Great Crash of Aug 2003, and I had to install proxy accounts to get their posts up and have no contact information for them. Many, many posts and threads were also lost, so current counts aren't reflective of overall participation.

If and when this project actually gets going, I can set up a separate subforum so that design, costs, distribution, etc can be discussed separately. There will be some spillover from one thread to the next, but this one is getting hard to follow as it is.
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« Reply #27 on: 11 02, 2008, 03:21: PM »

Cost is a factor, but it tends to go down with quantity. If this is something that will have long term use, it may well be worth investing in a larger quantity to bring the price per piece down a bit.

As for how it is given out, that depends on what it is actually going to stand for. Will it be for participation in and of itself or for some standard of participation?

I would think that as we are a small and select group, without a treasury, that the award winner might have to buy these from the organization. The actual price can be kept in the $5 or less range, very easily.

So lets see these other designs........
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« Reply #28 on: 11 02, 2008, 05:41: PM »

Just a thought, but what about adding a dollar per patch and having that dollar go to a designated charity?
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« Reply #29 on: 11 10, 2008, 11:16: AM »

Sounds perfectly acceptable to me, although i would ask if the place of purchase would be open to paypal as my finances don't allow for Dollars to be gained easilly.
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